Just when I thought I knew everything there is to know about long haul premium flying, I went and tried Singapore Airlines 777-300ER business class from Los Angeles to Tokyo (NRT).
It felt weird at first. Almost awkward.
However, by the end of the 10 hour flight, I had been converted into a believer. And a staunch supporter.
To those of you who just can’t find anything good to say about it: Come at me bro!
SQ11
Los Angeles, CA (LAX) – Tokyo, Narita (NRT)
Tuesday, August 27, 2024
Aircraft: 777-312ER
Registration: 9V-SWP
Duration: 10 hours 5 minutes
Seat: 22A (Business Class)
My full review of Singapore Airlines 777-300ER business class from Los Angeles to Tokyo (Narita)
SQ11 from LAX to NRT is a fifth freedom flight. It originates and ends in Singapore (with a stopover at Narita), but they are legally allowed to sell tickets on the segments between Japan and Los Angeles. Did you ever think that I would be able to resist something like that?
Arrival at LAX
For me, an international departure out of LAX means another flight up from San Diego in United Express Embraer 175 first class. I arrived on the 7:15 AM flight, which gave me almost 5 hours before the scheduled departure time to Tokyo.
The departure gate for this flight to Tokyo was scheduled to be 156. It’s a bit of a trek from the central portion of the terminal – just far enough that I’d be totally pissed off if they changed it by the time I got there.
The boarding process for SQ11 to Tokyo Narita
Boarding was delayed about 45 minutes due to late arrival of the aircraft from Tokyo. Making matters worse was the fact that there were a handful of other flights boarding at adjacent gates. It was chaos – but of the semi-controlled variety.
They got boarding started at 2:30pm – while nonchalantly blaming “late arrival of the aircraft” as the culprit. It was a masterclass in deflecting blame unto others.
Seat overview
Those of you familiar with Singapore Airlines 787-10 business class will likely consider the seats on the 777-300ER to be a massive upgrade (both figuratively and literally).
Honestly? I didn’t like how the seat felt more like a sofa at first (a really hard one – the kind you find in hospital waiting rooms). Being ultra wide does feel luxurious though.
There are nooks and crannies everywhere. Opening the lid to the one next to my left elbow revealed a full bottle of water and noise canceling headphones. The one over my left shoulder revealed electrical and USB power outlets. The rest were just empty voids ready to swallow whatever crap you could stuff in them.
Other things you’re very likely to use throughout the flight: all the buttons for your seat, and handy reading lights just over your right shoulder. Check it out:
Amenities
Perhaps one of the most surprising things about the boarding process was the fact that they didn’t hand out amenity kits. They did the usual champagne, fruit juice, and water thing though – So that’s good I guess. But let’s be real here. That’s technically half-assing it.
The departure
It was 3:12 PM by the time we pushed off the gate. So much for the 95% on-time predictability rating I was seeing in the Flighty App. Oh well. The weather was perfect though, and there was lots of interesting things to see as we taxied to the south complex and runway 25R.
I also managed to record a full video of the taxi and takeoff (because AvGeek):
The first meal service
The cabin crew didn’t waste any time getting dinner served on this flight. Considering that printed menus were at every seat upon boarding, and that they took meal orders prior to takeoff, it didn’t surprise me. Here’s the menu (click on the images to see larger versions):
There was also fluid to go with those nuts. I went with water to combat the effects of the sugar-induced crash that I was experiencing from the apple juice earlier.
It was a decently delicious meal IMHO. Certainly not the best food I’ve ever eaten in international business class, but satisfying nonetheless.
In-flight entertainment
The video screens in business class on the 777-300ER are huge. Unfortunately, that’s the nicest thing I have to say about them.
They are not touchscreens. Interacting with the screen and all the menus is done via the wired remote control (which just so happens to be the same one you’ll get in my Singapore Airlines 737 MAX 8 business class review). It’s as awkward as it sounds, and completely non-intuitive considering how large and in your face that screen is.
The catalog of content was so so. It might take you a while to find something interesting to watch, so patience may be required as you’re scrolling through the options.
Seat comfort
Putting the seat into a lie flat position requires the assistance of a flight attendant. It’s a complicated process – I didn’t see anyone being able to figure it out on their own.
Once in a fully flat position, it’s a fairly comfortable place to stretch out and relax. I had no problem sleeping in this seat, even though it required angling myself in an awkward way to get my feet to go into the footwell.
Perhaps the biggest downside to these seats is the fact that once it’s in a lie flat position, it requires a lot of work (and help from the flight attendant) to bring it back upright. Don’t go all the way unless you’re fully committed to sleep!
The lavatory
I don’t normally dedicate an entire section of the review to the lavatory, but I’m making an exception in this case. The business class loo on this aircraft was (unexpectedly) every bit as fancy as what you saw in my review of Emirates A380 business class.
The second meal service
The cabin lights came on a whopping 3 hours prior to arrival. Normally I would scoff at such a thing, but it turns out that it was necessary due to the complexity of the pre-landing meal service. I enjoyed this meal more than the first one.
The descent and landing into NRT
The headwinds we were flying into all the way across Pacific ended up being not as strong as they predicted. We were running about 15 minutes ahead of schedule as we began the descent.
We touched down on runway 16L 13 minutes ahead of schedule. Even at 5:23 PM, it was still incredibly hot and humid. That’s summertime in Japan for ya.
Pros and cons
The best way to summarize this is to say that it was almost like meeting my hero and being slightly disappointed by the experience. It was good though. Just a little different, that’s all.
Pros
- The seats are incredibly wide. One of the widest business class I’ve ever sat in.
- Ginormous video screens are a good thing.
- Food quality is excellent. Though, as you just saw, it depends on the dish.
- Sleeping is easy in these seats. They’re a little firm, but overall very comfortable.
Cons
- The seats are incredibly tall, which made me feel somewhat claustrophobic (because I couldn’t see over top of them).
- I don’t like the fact that putting the seat into a lie flat position (and then returning it to an upright position) requires assistance from the flight attendant.
- I also don’t like the fact that interacting with the video screen requires the use of the remote control.
- There are no center overhead bins on these 777-300ERs. Pack lightly!
Jason B
Did you hit up lounge pre-flight? What’s up with no amenity kits? And what is a United 737 doing at NRT?
Scott (SANspotter)
Yup, I had a 5 hour layover after arriving from SAN, so I hit the AMEX Lounge for breakfast and the Star Alliance business class lounge for lunch. Access to the Star Alliance Lounge was included in the cost of the ticket of course.
The lack of amenity kits surprised me as well! Things change I guess…
And I’m guessing that the United 737 was headed to (or coming from) Guam. If not, maybe it was getting maintenance / retrofitting done somewhere in Asia?
Lasloy
Hey Scott, they provide the amenity kits on request – you should have asked for one. All the toiletries you need are located in the bathrooms. Its a smart way of reducing waste and with the exception of the Emirates tote bag – they just take up space in your carry-on.
Scott (SANspotter)
Ah! I didn’t know that they were handed out by request only. Noted for next time I guess.
But I totally agree with you – it’s a complete waste much of the time, so I understand why they’re doing it that way.
Peter
It’s interesting how many small differences there are compared to other business class products, such as the placement of the footwell, the way the seat reclines, the remote-only IFE, and the lack of amenity kits. These are just small(ish) differences, but they’re still worth mentioning IMO.
And to be fair, the soft product seems pretty “conventional” (well, other than its quality of course-I’ve never heard a single bad thing about it).
Also, I think that the look of the cabin is underrated. While not the best-looking J class cabin out there, it’s still quite elegant, but I’ve never seen anyone mention it.
Finally, I have to say that it’s pretty cool to see how many fifth-freedom routes SQ operates. It’s a great way to experience this world-renowned airline even if you can’t go all the way to Singapore. I can’t say I haven’t looked at prices for their BCN-MXP route! (Even though it hasn’t come to fruition yet).
Scott (SANspotter)
BCN to MXP on Singapore Airlines? An oddball route for sure. Sounds fun though – and as you said, it’d be a great way to give SQ a try without going all the way.
I heard on a podcast this morning that this particular 77W business class configuration will be going away over the next few years. At least that’s what I thought I heard. I only listen to podcasts during my usual morning bike ride, and I was going up a very steep hill at that exact moment (with my heart rate pegged at 180 lol).
They won’t have a twist my arm to try it again though. The longer the flight the better!
Daniel
Interesting! Any aviation podcasts that you’d recommend? I can always use a new one.
Scott (SANspotter)
Thanks! My current favorite is The Air Show. Number two would have to be Layovers.
Ron Carovano
Scott, thanks for the review. Did you look into the Book the Cook options for your meals? We had excellent lobster thermidore on our flight from SIN to NRT a few months ago.
Scott (SANspotter)
You’re very welcome Ron! No, I didn’t even realize that was an option until it was too late. Next time though.